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The last I read, a while back, was that Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation was quite an improvement on electric shock treatment and not particularly easy to subvert. Positron emission scans and MRI are probably much more useful for interogation etc.


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I didn't know about medical uses of TMS. Thanks for that. As for the latter, my understanding is that there's been a lot of hype about MRI and other modes of "mind reading." The images you get are nowhere near specific enough for reading detailed thoughts, AS YET. Perhaps not even their general contents can be discovered by these methods. If I am behind the times, please correct me. BUT I was talking more about using such gizmos for THOUGHT CONTROL, by magnetically inducing types of thoughts and behavior that the controllers deem desirable at the moment of use. For example, in demotivating crowds at political demonstrations. I'm speculating here. Again, I'd appreciate any info and/or corrections.


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I've read about the magnetic fields thing causing 'religious experiences' or the sense of 'a presence' in the room, etc. It seems about 1 in 5 are immune to the effects (Richard Dawkins, for one). This was explored by Dr Michael Persinger, with his 'God Helmet'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_helmet

The theory of extra low-frequency electromagnetic waves inducing panic/nausea etc has been around for a while. It was one theory about the purpose of the cold war 'Russian Woodpecker' signal; however, it seems fairly well-established now that that was in fact an over-the-horizon radar system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Woodpecker

Personally I'm sceptical that neuro-imaging will ever be able to 'see a thought' as such; I suspect that at any meaningful level our ideas are tied in with the unique structures of our individual brains. That the different structures of our individual brains are shaped by experience seems quite well established now.

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Hi Mike---Right. I am skeptical for exactly the reasons you are: far too much individuality of structure in each brain. As for the god stuff, I read about it too, in V. Ramachandran's PHANTOMS IN THE BRAIN. See chapter 9. A very interesting book, by the way.


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Geoff Ryman posted on Facebook, saying this issue of IZ has been translated into French for publication in GALAXIES magazine...
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First I've heard about it!

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I saw it mentioned somewhere one or two days ago. Excellent.


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Presumably they only mean the fiction, as the non-fiction wouldn't be particularly relevant now.

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I posted a cover image and link on the TTA facebook page on Sunday 27th.


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