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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:52 am 
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Five, in the UK, have recently begun flogging this rather hard, and I wondered what everyone else thought of it?

It looks to me like "Lost" meets "The 4400". Could be interesting. Then again, Lost started off interesting before degenerating into a pile of shite and confusion.


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Yeah, I keep seeing that, and the concept sounds intriguing, though I'm not sure there's enough mileage in it for a series. Will definitely give it a look though. I'm ready to believe :lol:

For some reason, even though the premise is different, the trailer reminds me of that for "The Happening".

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I can see what you mean, about the Happening.

And I agree, it does seem like they'll be stretching the premise for a TV series. Would possibly make a better film, in my opinion, but I guess we'll see.


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Watched it last night, and intrigued enough to stick with it for a couple more episodes. Lots of stuff getting thrown at the screen, characters and events. Nice end touch with the guy moving among the collapsed crowd.

I noticed when the credits rolled that it was based on a novel by Robert J Sawyer, which suggests it might have an end instead of just rolling on and on until everyone loses the plot and gets fed up like "Lost".

Anyone read the book?

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Says something about the differences between TV series and novel.

I have been watching and it made me decide to try the novel.
It was going well until last week's episode, I thought, but then it seemed to get silly.

The investigation was in danger of being terminated for wasting money (by a woman politician) when the man in charge was offered the top post in 'Homeland Security', which would surely allow him to save the investigation. Instead he seems to blackmail the president into appointing the woman politician to vice president so she drops her inquiry. Doesn't make sense but maybe in US politics it does.


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Depends Roy. We don't yet know if this a Republican or a Democrat administration :lol:

What gets me is all these people firing off guns and trying to kill the good guys, when presumably by looking on mosaic they can find out that their targets are still alive in six months time, and therefore deduce that they will fail.

There's a subtext here about determinism, but nobody seems to be interested in exploring it.

Interesting piece from Gary W. Should have known the series would be nothing like the book.

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I'm really enjoying it, but there seems to be a tendency to make the minor characters into buffoons, which is annoying me a bit.

There was the mad muffin woman, and the bloke who wanted to be a customs controller...brr.

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Good point Pete though it assumes everyone has made a mosaic entry. And of course the assassins own flash should have been blank if they failed which might have made them cautious.
Actually I imagine that it would be tempting to lie about your future (eg I won the lottery or whatever) as it might produce advantages in the present before time catches up.


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Good point Pete though it assumes everyone has made a mosaic entry.


Not everyone, but certainly the FBI team who were targets in that episode. We know they did this and that it is accessible to the public, because the female FBI agent's new girlfriend checked mosaic to find out that in her flash forward she was pregnant.

I think in their shoes I would want to 'test to destruction' the flash forward, by changing as many things as possible - e.g. alter my hair, my choice in clothing, where I live, my job etc. Would these changes be allowed?

Haven't seen this week's episode yet. Tonight.

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I think in their shoes I would want to 'test to destruction' the flash forward, by changing as many things as possible - e.g. alter my hair, my choice in clothing, where I live, my job etc. Would these changes be allowed?


Chopping a finger off might work if you saw your hand in the flash but it probably would have to be an action with that level of irreversibility. I suppose a tattoo might be a less drastic alternative if they really are irremovable.


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Yeah, I was trying to avoid stuff like chopping fingers off Roy :lol:

Thinking about this some more, C5 are broadcasting the show on Monday, Friday and Sunday. What would be really cool is if they introduced subtle differences between each broadcast. Mind games at the expense of the viewer.

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Actually, if well done, that could be a really good idea, Pete...


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With my present memory and attention span such changes would make no difference.


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Caught Monday's episode last night, and it seems like somebody did indeed test the flash forward to destruction. At the moment it's looking like the future can be changed, unless they take the plot off into parallel universes etc.

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Watched BBC's new non SF (according to the female lead) series Paradox last night and it's almost a Brit version of Flashforward. I expect it was a year in the planning and making so there's no reason to think one stimulated the other though, with out of Time information, you never know.

The BBC have odd flashes of linked images from the near future (1or 2 days maybe) to investigate and all was sorted in one episode. The US series takes odd 2 minute chunks of info from one point 6 months before the first episode and works towards those moments for a series.

The US had the world population in a 2 minute coma while the BBC had a big solar storm bashing the power grid and communication systems.

I quite enjoyed Paradox but with both the money is on screen and its obvious they have/had more in California. I know we love wobbly scenery but there are times when the screen seems empty when you know there would be more people around.

I bought a copy of the Sawyer novel this week. So messages from the future are fashionable but not as fashionable as vampires.


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