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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:02 am 
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I agree about the psychology, Jetse. I think your guys let the Russians dictate the pace of the game too much - especially when they let them slow things down and knock the ball round the back four, without really pressurising. I think if they'd forced a faster pace the Russians would have been less dominant in midfield - they would have tired quicker than the Dutch in a faster-paced game.

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A poor game, but I'm pleased Spain won, despite the fact that I've dropped out of the sweepstake. Italy were negative and got what they deserved.


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Hmm... I've come away from watching that Italy v Spain debacle in a weird frame of mind. As my wife is Italian I tend to support the Italians when Wales isn't in contention for anything (which, before anyone says it, doesn't happen a lot, yeah, yeah, I know...) :cry:
But tonight I was split. I wanted Spain to win because of the sweepstake but I couldn't help feel frustrated that Italy didn't put on a better show (which could have meant them winning!)
A disappointing affair all round though, perhaps I should have watched the new series of Top Gear instead...

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Update 2 - bold = still in, italics = oot.

1 Andy Cox France
2 Neil Willamson Croatia
3 Andy Hedgecock Switzerland

4 Max Hedgecock Russia
5 Vaughn Stanger Italy
6 Jetse De Vries Germany
7 Foxie Greece
8 Mike Alexander Sweden
9 Jim Steel Romania
10 Andrew Humphrey Czech Republic
11 Gary Fry Netherlands
12 Andrew Hook Austria
13 Stephen Pirie Portugal
14 James Pirie Poland

15 Des Lewis Turkey
16 Bob Lock Spain


Getting down to the nitty gritty now!

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Good news/Bad news = a small tactical error

I've just discovered there's no third/fourth place play-off at Euro2008, so we'll have to split the 3rd prize. Which means, if you're still in the competition, you're gonna get some dough.

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Given the choices, Bob, I'm now rooting for you.

Reason? Well, I used to work with a Spaniard, and he was a fantastic guy who loved his footie.

It's all very well analyzing form and tactics and what-not, but that's not what football is about for me. It's about sentiment and hoping for the impossible.

Ah, the cognitive dissonance of a life-long England fan :)

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Is Turkey going to win tonight?
I have great confidence that they will.

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Half-time: I am still confident.

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Great match. We wuz brill! And well done, Jetse.

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Great match. We wuz brill!
And you should've won!

(OK: I'm not supposed to say this. And my blood money sum keeps getting bigger and bigger... :cry: )

I do think Turkey deserved to win: with either half the team injured or outbooked by yellow cards, they put up a tremendous performance. For my money (unintended pun, really... :oops: ) they were the better team. If Holland had half of Turkey's fighting spirit we would have walshed over Russia.

So now 'my' team -- Germany -- gets to the finals on the basis of exactly *one* good game (against Portugal), and lotsa luck and narrow wins against others.

The cynic in me now expects a fight to the death between Spain and Russia, going in extra time, decided on penalties. The exhausted winner meets Germany in the finals, and loses in the last minute.

Oh well: I shouldn't have quoted Gary Lineker. As punishment I will drink some German beer: Paulaner Heffe Weissen... ](*,)

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So now 'my' team -- Germany -- gets to the finals on the basis of exactly *one* good game (against Portugal), and lotsa luck and narrow wins against others.


They played not too bad against Poland.


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Spain, well what can I say? Excellent ball control and movement. they were a joy to watch. Should make for an interesting final on Sunday if they can repeat tonight's performance against Germany.

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Spain were superb: they kept dominating the game even though the Russians were a very tough nut to crack. They showed us (Holland) that the way to beat Russia is to take the initiative and never give it away, and to dictate the pace (the way we did against Italy and -- partly -- France, but utterly failed to do against Russia).

Great team. But then, you only beat the Germans when you lead in the very last millisecond... 8)

See ya on Sunday, Bob!

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By way of light relief -- and I only found out about this today -- the following:

Before the European Championships started, there was an offer by Kruidvat -- a Dutch drugstore chain -- for an LCD TV: 399 euros, but with an added discount of 100 euros per goal that the Dutch team made against Italy. They had stocked a total of 250 of such TVs.

Goes to show how much faith they had in our team.

Keep in mind that this offer was also valid the day *after* the game. So, after the 3-0 win, these TVs were priced at a cool 99 euros (and they were lucky they didn't make a similar deal for the match against France... 8) ). Of course, demand far outstripped supply and those 250 TVs were gone faster than a barrel of free beer on a hot Friday afternoon... :lol:

People complained, and now the company promised to come back on this special offer, and to do such stunts differently in the future (talk about a no-brainer). The Dutch consumerist watchdog said that while they didn't expect Etos to have an unlimited supply of these LCD TVs, they did expect there to be a 'sufficient' supply.

250 would have been sufficient if Holland hadn't scored at all, but at 3-0 it was far from 'sufficient'.

I just find this incredibly funny... :D

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Hey Jetse,
Well, it's you and me :) Should be an exciting match with Germany's doggedness and reputation as the über tournament machine against Spain, so long the great under-achievers, but now with a midfield that has possessed the most creativity of all the sides (IMHO). My beer is in the fridge cooling, my LCD is warmed up, the surround sound has been tested (to the annoyance of my neighbours) and the paella is cooking. See you on the field!

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