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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:22 pm 
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Well... that's me outa the competition now with both Sweden and Ireland.. :cry:

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:52 pm 
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Lots of celebrations in our house today...

...because the children are so happy that the rest of the tournament takes place after bedtime!

I was very happy about the England result. I was really hoping Alan Hansen would say you win nothing with kids afterwards...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:42 pm 
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That was a thrilling game, and I am once again starting to count up my winnings...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:10 am 
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Great game, but still plenty to worry about for England IMO. In both cases, you could see the Swedish goals were coming minutes beforehand - sloppy passes, poor marking, getting pegged back in our own half for too long. There was no shortage of incidents were a better team would have punished us. Not to take away from three decent goals, and a good tactical substitution.

One day I'll watch an England win that doesn't age me several months in a couple of hours! The last time was in 2001 (yes, it was that long ago!) when we thrashed Germany 5-1 in Munich.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:50 am 
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Watched the England game when I got home from playing a gig in Edinburgh. Intended to flick through and pick out the interesting bits, but ended up caught up in it. Good game, guys. And a good victory. The final games in this group will be interesting with France needing a point against a dispirited Sweden but the fired up home side, Ukraine, needing to go for broke against the English. My gut tells me the pressure will be too much for the Ukrainians and England will go through quite comfortably. There'll be fireworks though.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:14 am 
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So, we're going into the last round of group games. Worth having a round up of where everyone stands?

Andy Cox - RUSSIA
Vaughan Stanger - CZECH REPUBLIC
Ross Warren - POLAND
Max Hedgecock - GREECE

Barring a major upset it looks like Andy has this group in the bag and Max is sadly out, but Greece have surprised us before, so a thumping defeat of Russia could save them (yeah, right). The other place is between Vaughan and Ross. Both the Poles and the Czechs have been improving throughout the tournament and, although the Czechs only need a draw, I reckon it's all to play for.

Roy Gray - GERMANY
Des Lewis - PORTUGAL
Bob Lock - DENMARK
Mike Alexander - NETHERLANDS

Roy "The Kaiser" Gray must be pleased with himself. The Germans are through no matter what happens, and it looks like the remaining spot will be contested by Des's Portugal and Bob's Danes, but Mike's not giving up hope. If the Germans beat the Danes and the Dutch get their shit together and beat the Portugal by two or three, they could still sneak through too. That'll be a nailbiter!

Chris Murdoch - SPAIN (for the second time in a row!)
Stephen Theaker - CROATIA
Jim Steel - ITALY (or whoever replaces them if they pull out)
Ian Hunter - REPUBLIC OF IRELAND

Bad luck to Ian's Irish team. They're out, but if they've been on thing in this competition, it's consistent. It's pretty much a dead cert that Italy will beat them two nil with the goals coming within the first few minutes of each half. So, Jim should be sitting back quite comfortably now. And it's hard to see Stephen's Croats beat Chris's Spain, who have the better goal difference and only need a draw. This one looks pretty safe for the favourites.

Jim Hawkins - FRANCE
Lynda Rucker - ENGLAND
Andy Hedgecock - UKRAINE
Darren Gallagher - SWEDEN

On the face of it, this one looks pretty safe for the top two too, Darren's out and Jim's through, even if Sweden beat France. Unless it's a *total* humping, in which case a draw in the other game could see both England and Ukraine through. Lynda must be reasonably confident after last night's England performance, but don't discount home advantage. Andy might be celebrating a Ukrainian surprise before this over.


To sum up then - very little is certain yet. Only the Germans are definitely through and only the Irish and Swedes are going home. The next four days are going to be crackers!

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:34 pm 
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Thanks for the excellent round-up - although I don't think Germany are quite through yet.

I'm still optimistic for my team... And I know I said I hate Croatia for being foulers, but when they played Italy, who are even worse in that regard, I was able to quite enjoy that side of their game. Amazed no one got sent off after the double elbows that left two Italians floored.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:44 pm 
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I'm just here to check Neil's predictions for tomorrow night's games. :twisted:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:55 pm 
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I did say "barring a major upset"...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:11 pm 
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I'm confused - why are Greece going through and Russia going out? According to the table at BBC Sport, they are equal on points (won one, drawn one, lost one) and Russia have the better goal difference. What am I missing?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:18 pm 
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When two teams are level on points, their head-to-head result is used to separate them. In this case, tonight's game, Mike.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:19 pm 
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Neil - yeah, right.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:29 pm 
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Thanks Jim - makes sense now. So for the Netherlands to go through, they need to beat Portugal, Germany need to beat Denmark, and Netherlands need to have a better goal difference than both Portugal and Denmark. A slim chance, but stranger things have happened!

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:32 pm 
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Blimey, still in it. Count me gobsmacked. Just goes to show that mediocre teams can improve...


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:38 pm 
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I'd forgotten that head to head results now count ahead of goal difference. That might make it even more interesting in some of these groups.

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